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		<title>By: Charl P. Botha</title>
		<link>http://cpbotha.net/2005/06/15/altgildiediedie/comment-page-1/#comment-348</link>
		<dc:creator>Charl P. Botha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jun 2005 22:43:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve submitted a patch to the VTK developers list that makes the VTK wrappings GIL friendly.  See my mail: &lt;a href=&quot;http://public.kitware.com/pipermail/vtk-developers/2005-June/003331.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://public.kitware.com/pipermail/vtk-developers/2005-June/003331.html&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve submitted a patch to the VTK developers list that makes the VTK wrappings GIL friendly.  See my mail: <a href="http://public.kitware.com/pipermail/vtk-developers/2005-June/003331.html" rel="nofollow">http://public.kitware.com/pipermail/vtk-developers/2005-June/003331.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Charl P. Botha</title>
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		<dc:creator>Charl P. Botha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jun 2005 16:15:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just another note: if wrapped code calls the Py_BEGIN_ALLOW_THREADS and Py_END_ALLOW_THREADS around blocking code that doesn&#039;t make any calls into the Python API, the GIL is released.

I either have to implement this for VTK, ITK and all other wrapped code that I want to use, or I have to figure out some other non-threading solution.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just another note: if wrapped code calls the Py_BEGIN_ALLOW_THREADS and Py_END_ALLOW_THREADS around blocking code that doesn&#8217;t make any calls into the Python API, the GIL is released.</p>
<p>I either have to implement this for VTK, ITK and all other wrapped code that I want to use, or I have to figure out some other non-threading solution.</p>
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		<title>By: Charl P. Botha</title>
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		<dc:creator>Charl P. Botha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jun 2005 13:10:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the suggestion Rudolph.  Stackless looks really cool, but it still doesn&#039;t seem to solve my problem.  Microthreads are useful for a different type of problem, but they also seem to switch at bytecode (or even python code) level.  In my case, a single Python call is invoking long-running wrapped code.  This really needs to be in a separate OS thread without a global lock preventing the rest of Python from continuing with its business.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the suggestion Rudolph.  Stackless looks really cool, but it still doesn&#8217;t seem to solve my problem.  Microthreads are useful for a different type of problem, but they also seem to switch at bytecode (or even python code) level.  In my case, a single Python call is invoking long-running wrapped code.  This really needs to be in a separate OS thread without a global lock preventing the rest of Python from continuing with its business.</p>
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		<title>By: Rudolph</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rudolph</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jun 2005 08:28:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Would Stackless Python perchance help?

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.developer.com/open/article.php/10930_630761_2&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.developer.com/open/article.php/10930_630761_2&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.stackless.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.stackless.com/&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Would Stackless Python perchance help?</p>
<p><a href="http://www.developer.com/open/article.php/10930_630761_2" rel="nofollow">http://www.developer.com/open/article.php/10930_630761_2</a><br />
<a href="http://www.stackless.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.stackless.com/</a></p>
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