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	<title>Comments on: Prisoners are allowed to vote, I&#8217;m not</title>
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		<title>By: Will</title>
		<link>http://cpbotha.net/2004/03/03/prisoners-are-allowed-to-vote-im-not/comment-page-1/#comment-223</link>
		<dc:creator>Will</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Mar 2004 13:01:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Charl, why don&#039;t you let me vote for you? I&#039;ve still got the moustache I used last election when I voted for both the Soccer and the Green Party (it was reeeeal hard to choose).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Charl, why don&#8217;t you let me vote for you? I&#8217;ve still got the moustache I used last election when I voted for both the Soccer and the Green Party (it was reeeeal hard to choose).</p>
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		<title>By: Charl P. Botha</title>
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		<dc:creator>Charl P. Botha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Mar 2004 10:31:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hannes, I did read that PDF you quote and I know about the criteria.  In short, those criteria are for people who are overseas because they work for the ZA government, or who are overseas because they&#039;re representing ZA in sport or because they&#039;re studying at a tertiary institution.

However, as soon as you have a work permit overseas (it doesn&#039;t matter if you&#039;re a 100% full-blown citizen of South Africa), you can&#039;t vote, no matter what.  I quote:

&quot;If you are overseas on a *work permit* or have *emigrated*, you cannot vote.&quot;

I can understand the emigration bit, but *not* allowing South Africans who are working overseas to vote whilst convicted prisoners are allowed is utter bullshit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hannes, I did read that PDF you quote and I know about the criteria.  In short, those criteria are for people who are overseas because they work for the ZA government, or who are overseas because they&#8217;re representing ZA in sport or because they&#8217;re studying at a tertiary institution.</p>
<p>However, as soon as you have a work permit overseas (it doesn&#8217;t matter if you&#8217;re a 100% full-blown citizen of South Africa), you can&#8217;t vote, no matter what.  I quote:</p>
<p>&#8220;If you are overseas on a *work permit* or have *emigrated*, you cannot vote.&#8221;</p>
<p>I can understand the emigration bit, but *not* allowing South Africans who are working overseas to vote whilst convicted prisoners are allowed is utter bullshit.</p>
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		<title>By: Hannes</title>
		<link>http://cpbotha.net/2004/03/03/prisoners-are-allowed-to-vote-im-not/comment-page-1/#comment-221</link>
		<dc:creator>Hannes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Mar 2004 09:35:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Still believe that you give up your rights once you&#039;ve been locked up, including the right to vote.

The ANC needs to give the prisoners the vote, seeing that it is a controlled environment for the government and they can basically do what they please.

What&#039;s funny about this, is that if you haven&#039;t registered, you&#039;re not allowed to vote, but go to prison now, and you can.

According to this (&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.elections.org.za/papers/93/Overseas%20Votin21.pdf),&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.elections.org.za/papers/93/Overseas%20Votin21.pdf),&lt;/a&gt; if you comply with certain criteria (i.e. attending a tertiary institution, holiday, etc.), you can apply for a vote, but this had to be done 15 days after the election date was proclaimed (11/02/2004).  And only if you were already registered.....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Still believe that you give up your rights once you&#8217;ve been locked up, including the right to vote.</p>
<p>The ANC needs to give the prisoners the vote, seeing that it is a controlled environment for the government and they can basically do what they please.</p>
<p>What&#8217;s funny about this, is that if you haven&#8217;t registered, you&#8217;re not allowed to vote, but go to prison now, and you can.</p>
<p>According to this (<a href="http://www.elections.org.za/papers/93/Overseas%20Votin21.pdf)," rel="nofollow"></a><a href="http://www.elections.org.za/papers/93/Overseas%20Votin21.pdf)" rel="nofollow">http://www.elections.org.za/papers/93/Overseas%20Votin21.pdf)</a>, if you comply with certain criteria (i.e. attending a tertiary institution, holiday, etc.), you can apply for a vote, but this had to be done 15 days after the election date was proclaimed (11/02/2004).  And only if you were already registered&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: PW</title>
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		<dc:creator>PW</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Mar 2004 15:09:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>*Sigh* - At least Charlize Theeeeron won the Oscar.

But yip, that which you reward - you get.  It&#039;s basic human nature. That which you punish or tax - disappears.  Therefor if your criminals has more rights than law abiding citizens - OBviously you&#039;re going to have a problem with crime.  When you slap supertax on the people who actually PRODUCE something in this country and you reward the bergies with welfare grants and child support - OBviously you&#039;re going to have a problem with unemployment.

But then we do have a president who&#039;s certain that HIV doesn&#039;t cause AIDS and a health minister who preaches eating garlic to prevent the same afflication. Julle is almal fokken faktap.

Anyway Cape Town is still nice and Charlize won&#039;t be able to vote either.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>*Sigh* &#8211; At least Charlize Theeeeron won the Oscar.</p>
<p>But yip, that which you reward &#8211; you get.  It&#8217;s basic human nature. That which you punish or tax &#8211; disappears.  Therefor if your criminals has more rights than law abiding citizens &#8211; OBviously you&#8217;re going to have a problem with crime.  When you slap supertax on the people who actually PRODUCE something in this country and you reward the bergies with welfare grants and child support &#8211; OBviously you&#8217;re going to have a problem with unemployment.</p>
<p>But then we do have a president who&#8217;s certain that HIV doesn&#8217;t cause AIDS and a health minister who preaches eating garlic to prevent the same afflication. Julle is almal fokken faktap.</p>
<p>Anyway Cape Town is still nice and Charlize won&#8217;t be able to vote either.</p>
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